@Great Explosion Murder God Dynamight --- [text]

[blastedass]

[He normally doesn't bother with network posts. But this was a fairly long time in coming.]

Who here knows about painkillers, anesthetics, or other analgesic drugs?

Most of us have gone through surgery to get additional implants or modifications, or know someone who has, and every fucking time it's the same damn story: "This won't be done with any anesthetics as it's an elective procedure and LILITH is saving anesthetic drugs for life-saving medical procedures."

That's bullshit.

If they're cutting into us to do surgery, it's a damn life-saving medical procedure because we're the ones saving their fucking lives! The least they can do is knock our asses out or numb it before digging in and shoving more crap into our bodies! It's odd as hell a place with this much technological advancements doesn't have a way to create or access a steady supply of painkillers, so it's probably just not on their priority list.

I'm not a botanist or a chemist, but I know medical pain relievers started with plants before it became chemicals derived from them. Coca, thyme, clove, poppies, and curare are some of the original bases. I'm leaving the city next week to try to locate some of these in the wild and bring them back for cultivation. If you want to come with me, meet me in front of the base at dawn next Tuesday.

In the meantime, if anyone has knowledge about this, share it. Just cause they won't help in this doesn't mean we can't.


[ooc: for the record, i'm no botanist, chemist, or medical practitioner myself, but i'm happy to do some research if we wanna go down some kind of rabbit hole with this. feel free to mingle and interact further to share information or ideas if you like. hypothetically, if this succeeds, it would make future reward surgeries less burdensome on the outsiders... unless LILITH's just doing the pain on purpose.]

Comments

[wheft]

I for one think it's weird. Where I'm from, flowers are close to being nonexistent because of how technologically advanced everything is. Pretty flowers still exist in this world, sure, but if they had thyme and clove and poppies, they'd have been used as anesthetics by now.

Also, it's just as you said. We fought *monster* plants before - no doubt being mutations from whatever's currently polluting the ocean. I doubt you can extract the same kind of ingredients used for anesthetics either.

[blastedass]

These bastards send us outside the walls to handle the monsters they can't fight against. You think they're gonna go outside and look for analgesic plants for our well being with those fuckers out there?

They got a teleportation device working using guts from electrified geckos. If I find a mutated opium plant, I'm bringing it in and slapping it down on their desk.

[wheft]

That's not their job now, is it. You also need to consider the fact that maybe it isn't only LILITH who's been having an anesthetic shortage here, and that it is legitimately that hard to find those ingredients, let alone cultivate them in a world that keeps getting attacked every two months.

Just because this world seems advanced enough to you doesn't mean they already have the solutions to problems that used to plague whatever world you came from. That's just a purely naive way of thinking.

[blastedass]

THEY CAN PULL PEOPLE FROM OTHER DIMENSIONS AND MAKE THEIR OWN DAMN CHIMERA; YOU THINK GETTING A FUCKING PLANT AND GROWING IT IS DIFFICULT?!

[There has to be some kind of illogical fallacy to that! They were creating hybrid creatures down there even BEFORE the schism happened and someone else ran off to do it, just more grotesquely.]

Maybe it doesn't mean that, but that doesn't mean I have to sit here and accept it as the answer. If they want our help, there's more ways to do that than just beating up their kaiju for them and doing their repairs.

[wheft]

Apparently, if they haven't done it till now. Keep up, will you?

[ lmao ]

I mean I'm not stopping you if you're that bored out of your mind. But it's just going to be fruitless than anything.

[blastedass]

You know what a fucking priority is?

[Why you... LILITH could consider them expendable enough not to care.]

Remind me to shoot a pod down your throat when I find something.

[wheft]

[ rolls her eyes. she really is talking to a kid here, is she. the sooner he realizes that they are all expendable to the eyes of every organization out there, the better. ]

Yes? Clearly they are prioritizing the extermination of kaiju and saving humanity. I doubt that creating anesthesia to make life easier for its Outsiders is anywhere in their list of priorities - or if it is, it'd be in the lower rung.

[blastedass]

[don't call him that, but yes. a very stubborn one. it doesn't matter if they view him and the rest of the outsiders as expendable! they can still help themselves if the bastards overseeing them won't!

all that view does is make his point stand even harder.]

THAT'S WHAT I SAID, DAMMIT!!

Can you read?!

[If LILITH won't, then nothing's stopping them from doing it!]

[wheft]

I can. And have you found anyone who can just make these? And how are you going to distribute them? Are you certain that you will make enough for all 60 of us here while LILITH keeps churning out upgrades?

You're also going to account for the cost of the laboratory you'll need to rent, people who can keep churning these out (because the Outsider that you might ask to make these still has a life, you know), and other miscellaneous fees on top of it. I know you're just spitballing, but I'm also expecting that you already have an idea by now on how to handle all of that once you finally get that ball rolling. Unless you've been sitting on a mountain of KRYPTOS as we speak?

[blastedass]

I'M WORKING ON IT! THAT'S WHY I ASKED ON THE DAMN NETWORK!

[This is very much a work in progress, woman! Sometimes he really misses having a phone to throttle!]

If LILITH's issue is lack of resources, and we find those fucking resources, they can make more of the medicine! It's not like they don't HAVE anesthetics; they're just holding them back. They can stockpile an Outsider-only vault of this shit for all I fucking care!

[Provided they find anything.]

Che! Tokyo Disney's sitting on top of a fucking chimera laboratory. Biological experimentation. If LILITH wants us to be in top shape, and we provide them the ingredients, they can spare some damn medical staff to finish the effort. Hell, I'll learn how to do it myself if they'll teach me!

[And worst comes to worst, they look up online how to make cocaine and opium from the plants, then dope up like morons the next time they go in for surgery. One hit isn't enough to get someone addicted.

And you shouldn't be having enough surgeries to GET addicted!]

[wheft]

Sure. Provided that you can find anything, that is.

Good luck with that, truly.

[ these heroic types are so annoying... it's like talking to a damn wall. she DID not miss talking to don quixote for this reason. ]

[blastedass]

We'll find something.

[he's gonna be stubborn about this. hero types are known for that. giving up isn't in his activity book.]

You can thank me later if you use it.

[wheft]

[ chase all the windmills you want, kiddo. ]

I mean, I wouldn't say no to it, but I was already fine without it when I first got my surgery a while back.

[ yeah. "fine". ]

[blastedass]

[sit in your room and rot, toadstool.]

Bullshit. You were as "fine" as anyone else jerking around on that table like a fucking zombie.

[wheft]

Well, yes, but... Let's just say I have a high pain tolerance. Like yeah it hurt like a fucking bitch right after but at least it didn't kill me.

[ sometimes you just die an innumerable gruesome deaths that you don't give a fuck anymore. ]

And... I wasn't alone when I got those augmentations. I found some comfort in that as we suffered together in the aftermath. And I'd do it again if another augment catches my interest.

[blastedass]

So does everyone. That's not the damn point.

[none of them have died from the surgery. if "pain" was the only issue, he'd throw it over his shoulder. it's the fact there doesn't HAVE to be pain. but there's a reason LILITH decides there should be.

it's that burden he's bucking, whether they like it or not.]

We've got plenty of healers for after the surgery.

[wheft]

[ then maybe consider... not making it your problem? damn. ]

Would've been nice to know that sooner.

It's too late now, though. I'm used to it. Honestly, it'd freak me out more if it were that easy to make the process of healing that much painless. There has to be some sort of catch.

[blastedass]

[a hero's business is sticking his or her nose in other people's business, as some would say.]

What the hell? You know there's a healing implant, right?

[wheft]

Oh, right. I guess there's that. I thought you meant other healers or medics in our ranks that didn't need to go through that procedure.

[blastedass]

[Surprisingly...]

None that I know of.

[wheft]

I see.

That does make sense. LILITH needs fighters more than anything. But you'd think they can get someone who'd have at least some medical experience on the field just so you won't have to rally for something like this.

[blastedass]

You'd think. I know two people who are good in mechanics, but no healer like you'd see in a storybook. Most of us are combatants.

[Some with powers, some with tech, some with summons.]

I don't trust them sticking more of their tech in our bodies to power us up.

[wheft]

I don't either, but it's not like people like me have a choice. The fact that they give those out for free when they normally cost an arm and a leg is already a boon that you can't really see it as a con when you think about it.

[blastedass]

Depends on how much control they still have over it.

[Replacing part of your body with someone else's tech is never going to sit well with him. Because who the fuck knows what's left behind... waiting.]

[wheft]

They still work fine, for the most part. I haven't heard of anyone else here who broke down or went berserk after getting these implants either.

I know LILITH may be incompetent on certain aspects, but they'd know better than to lose even more trust with the people they just plucked out of nowhere. Aren't augmentations and prostheses a thing where you're from?